Tuesday, 28 October 2008

What makes me tick...

. Charlotte Gore seems to have started something of a trend by talking about the things she cares about; Panopticon Britain soon followed suit. Obviously every person will care about different things to different degrees and to some extent these passions do inform our politics.

My number one priority in life is the happiness, health and success of my partner who I love so much it is beyond the powers of my lexicon to describe. More than anything I want her to have the best of everything in life;everything, even politics pales into insignificance in this world in comparison

Money is something I care about to the point it is needed to ensure a standard of living but beyond that it is not an end in itself to me. It is worth noting at this point that Charlotte's personal circumstances may mean that;

"Whether you're earning 10k, 20k, 30k or on benefits, the result is the same: No f**king money. I got into debt because I had no f**king money and I have to pay the price for that, just like the vast majority of us in Britain"

but to say this is true for the majority of people in Britain is surely overstating a point. Liberty and democracy are things I care passionately about but I also care about the welfare of others around me so, does this make me a collectivist?? Like Charlotte I want the freedom to be an adult and have control of my life. However, I recognise that with that comes the responsibility to help provide for those that can't and a recognition that we cannot rely on peoples 'altruism' to provide that support.

Trust me; people can be amazing and selfless but they can also be the opposite and my experience from my job is that altruism motivates too small a percentage of us to provide the things I mentioned above. This means that the barrel of the gun does have to be pointed and that yes things like taxes to fund the welfare state must remain in place. People do not enter into market arrangements for mutual benefit; they enter them to enrich themselves through the accumulation of profit so Panopticon is wrong to ascribe altruistic qualities to the market.

The thing about liberty is this is that it is not achieved by individuals acting on their own; it is achieved when people come together in common cause and stand their ground and fight for it. This is the way forward for society....not a slavish devotion to the liberty of money and capital over human need.

8 comments:

asquith said...

FFS, are Charlotte & Panopticon for real?

I really get the feeling you & I are using different means to get to the same ends, but they are something else altogether.

It is starting to make me very uncomfortable even to behold their outlook on life. I must be a left-wing collectivist according to them, but I'm not one!

This is the ideologically-driven view of life being taken to ludicrous extremes.

Charlotte Gore said...

All I did was state what I cared about.. I did not pass judgement on others, or imply criticism of others that think differently.

What's so extreme about what I wrote? I don't understand.

asquith said...

Your outlook on life doesn't just cover yourself, it covers your relationship with other people, me included!

asquith said...

That is why it gets personal. :)

Slightly hard to explain, but I don't see how you can hold such a comprehensive view of your place in the world without "criticising" those whose philosophy is so different...

Darrell G said...

I agree Asquith. I think we may disagree about means and methods but we both are committed to social justice as being an integral part of a free and fair society and see that society as the desired end of our politics.

Ideology can inspire both good and terrible things and it is hard for people drive by ideology to see it's limitations and uses in context and that is definatly a lesson I have taken from my political past.

Charlotte Gore said...

What specifically do you disagree with? Caring about yourself? Caring about your friends? Caring about liberty or caring about money?

Which of these things are 'extreme' and which ones do you consider to be a criticism?

Charlotte Gore said...

Or is it the fact that I didn't say I cared about the poor, or the sick?

Darrell G said...

Well Charlotte the question really does beg itself how you are going to provide for people through alturism alone doesnt it. In an ideal world your solution would work; the rich would give to charity and they would provide and the milk and honey would flow freely...but we all know life isnt like that dont we??